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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Sounds fine,<br>
      but we should thik about not callign this flavour here too to
      prevent confusions.<br>
      <br>
      But this brings me to another point, it becomes standart that the
      overrides.yml and overrides.rb ist part of the autoproj build
      configuration. Therefore it's hard to define local overrides.
      Could we maybe add a local-overrides.rb and local-overrides.yml 
      that will be checked by autoproj too?<br>
      <br>
      Best,<br>
      Matthias<br>
      <br>
      On 19.06.2014 11:38, Sylvain Joyeux wrote:<br>
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      cite="mid:20140619093849.A5B1AA5AD8_3A2AFA9B@sea-mail.dfki.de"
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      <div dir="ltr">We basically would separate the flavor of rock.core
        from the flavor of the rest of the packages. The only flavor
        users would be asked about would be the non-core one and we
        would automatically pick the rock.core one based on that (next
        for next, stable for stable). People that would want 'master' on
        rock.core would have to do it manually in their init.rb</div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 4:37 PM,
          Matthias Goldhoorn <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
              moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:matthias.goldhoorn@dfki.de" target="_blank">matthias.goldhoorn@dfki.de</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
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              <div>...sounds good... but howto integrate this into the
                flavored concept, simply not using flavors at all for
                rock.core?<br>
                <br>
                Best,<br>
                Matthias
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                  <br>
                  On 18.06.2014 15:16, Sylvain Joyeux wrote:<br>
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                  <div dir="ltr">One possible solution: decouple rock
                    master from rock.core master (different release
                    schedules). rock.core master would then become
                    really a development branch where people should not
                    fear to push tested but not heavily tested code.
                    <div> <br>
                    </div>
                    <div>The rules:<br>
                      <div>
                        <div>1. rock master CANNOT depend on features in
                          rock.core master. This ensures that the
                          current up-to-date packages are not dependent
                          on development features in the toolchain. This
                          is ensured by making people always use
                          rock.core next or stable.</div>
                        <div>2. rock.core master MUST stay backward
                          compatible, i.e. at the point of release of
                          rock.core, rock next should be usable with
                          rock.core master. In other words, releasing
                          rock.core (from master to next) should not
                          break existing 'next' applications.</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Thoughts?</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Sylvain<br>
                          <div><br>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                  </div>
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                <div>
                  <div class="h5">
                    <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                      <br>
                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at
                        2:02 PM, Matthias Goldhoorn <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:matthias.goldhoorn@dfki.de"
                            target="_blank">matthias.goldhoorn@dfki.de</a>&gt;</span>
                        wrote:<br>
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                            <div>-1 because for checkint our tree we
                              need master, on we simply remove it from
                              the server i'm sure people find ways like
                              in the overrides <br>
                              <br>
                              *:<br>
                              - branch: master<br>
                              <br>
                              to do such things.<br>
                              <br>
                              Best,<br>
                              Matthias
                              <div><br>
                                <br>
                                On 05.06.2014 13:23, Vincent vittori
                                wrote:<br>
                              </div>
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                              <div dir="ltr">+1 for removing master </div>
                              <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                <br>
                                <div class="gmail_quote">
                                  <div>2014-06-05 9:25 GMT+02:00
                                    Alexander Duda <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:Alexander.Duda@dfki.de"
                                        target="_blank">Alexander.Duda@dfki.de</a>&gt;</span>:<br>
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                                            <div>Am 05.06.2014 um 09:08
                                              schrieb Matthias Goldhoorn
                                              &lt;<a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="mailto:matthias.goldhoorn@dfki.de"
                                                target="_blank">matthias.goldhoorn@dfki.de</a>&gt;:</div>
                                            <div><br>
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                                                  <div>Good Morning,<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    I don't know what
                                                    you mean with
                                                    resistance, in the
                                                    past master was the
                                                    most "stable"
                                                    version with the
                                                    newest features.<br>
                                                    Therefore there was
                                                    no resistance.<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Specially for
                                                    Syskit/Roby i not
                                                    posted all bugs,
                                                    most of the bugs i
                                                    workaround, but i
                                                    will start to create
                                                    bug-requests for
                                                    this...<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Regarding the new
                                                    functionality, you
                                                    are right, most of
                                                    these features are
                                                    not needed, they
                                                    make only the life
                                                    easier..., but if i
                                                    as developer see the
                                                    need of a feature
                                                    and implement it, i
                                                    want to use this
                                                    directly. I think
                                                    this is normal,
                                                    since the rock-devs
                                                    are not pure-rock
                                                    devs, work is done
                                                    if we feel that we
                                                    need enhancements...<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Maybe we should
                                                    rename the structure
                                                    or introduce a
                                                    experimental branch.
                                                    Phsychological i
                                                    have the impression
                                                    that "master" gets
                                                    associated with
                                                    "newest" not with an
                                                    "unstable
                                                    development"
                                                    version. Maybe we
                                                    should rename or
                                                    create an additional
                                                    "unstable" branch,
                                                    from where the
                                                    release policy to
                                                    master is not so
                                                    fixed windowed...<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    example development:<br>
                                                    - work is done on
                                                    experimental and
                                                    pushed as soon as
                                                    the dev thing it
                                                    might work<br>
                                                    - experimental is
                                                    pushed to master, as
                                                    soon the responsible
                                                    dev thing his
                                                    changes work for all
                                                    (few days upto a
                                                    week?)<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    Again i thing the
                                                    primary reasons why
                                                    most of all stays on
                                                    master ist that the
                                                    other branches does
                                                    not have the
                                                    "needed"("wished")
                                                    features, or they
                                                    have bugs that are
                                                    not pushed from
                                                    master<br>
                                                  </div>
                                                </div>
                                              </blockquote>
                                              <div><br>
                                              </div>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>I have my doubt here.
                                              None of the core packages
                                              had major issues the last
                                              couple of months forcing
                                              people to use master for
                                              the hole bootstrap. </div>
                                            <br>
                                            <blockquote type="cite">
                                              <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"
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                                                <div> <br>
                                                  Thoughts?<br>
                                                </div>
                                              </div>
                                            </blockquote>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>I have the feeling we
                                              should just remove master
                                              as flavor. In this case
                                              everyone has to bootstrap
                                              next or stable and if
                                              needed he/she can manually
                                              overwrite specific
                                              packages.</div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>Alex</div>
                                            <div>
                                              <div>
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <br>
                                                <blockquote type="cite">
                                                  <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"
                                                    text="#000000">
                                                    <div> Matthias<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      On 04.06.2014
                                                      17:00, Sylvain
                                                      Joyeux wrote:<br>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <blockquote
                                                      type="cite">
                                                      <div dir="ltr">Then
                                                        ... my next
                                                        question would
                                                        be:
                                                        <div><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>  Why isn't
                                                          there more
                                                          resistance
                                                          w.r.t.
                                                          switching to
                                                          master ?</div>
                                                        <div><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>I mean,
                                                          when you say
                                                          "oh I had a
                                                          bug on syskit
                                                          on next", did
                                                          you report it
                                                          as a
                                                          functionality
                                                          bug on next ?
                                                          Did you insist
                                                          that it should
                                                          be fixed *on
                                                          next* ?
                                                          instead of
                                                          switching to
                                                          master ?</div>
                                                        <div><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>For new
                                                          functionality,
                                                          how much of it
                                                          is "oh but I
                                                          need X, it is
                                                          so shiny"
                                                          instead of
                                                          "without X, I
                                                          really cannot
                                                          do it !". I
                                                          mean, when I
                                                          worked on the
                                                          Orion I
                                                          *wanted* some
                                                          features from
                                                          master, but
                                                          quickly
                                                          realized that
                                                          I did not
                                                          *need* them. I
                                                          had what was
                                                          strictly
                                                          needed to get
                                                          the Joints
                                                          type (meaning
                                                          typelib/master
                                                          but
                                                          orogen/next)</div>
                                                        <div><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>As for the
                                                          release
                                                          schedule /
                                                          frequency, I
                                                          can only do
                                                          +1. Releases
                                                          are too far
                                                          apart.</div>
                                                        <div><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>My big
                                                          problem here
                                                          is that master
                                                          has become the
                                                          de-facto
                                                          version of
                                                          Rock that
                                                          everyone uses,
                                                          which really
                                                          hinders
                                                          possibility to
                                                          do some actual
                                                          development.</div>
                                                        <div><br>
                                                        </div>
                                                        <div>Sylvain</div>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div
                                                        class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                        <br>
                                                        <div
                                                          class="gmail_quote">On

                                                          Wed, Jun 4,
                                                          2014 at 3:54
                                                          PM, Matthias
                                                          Goldhoorn <span
                                                          dir="ltr">&lt;<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:matthias.goldhoorn@dfki.de"
                                                          target="_blank">matthias.goldhoorn@dfki.de</a>&gt;</span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>On
                                                          04.06.2014
                                                          15:43, Sylvain
                                                          Joyeux wrote:<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <blockquote
                                                          type="cite">
                                                          <div dir="ltr">Is

                                                          that everyone
                                                          seem to think
                                                          that they need
                                                          master. The
                                                          majority
                                                          should be
                                                          using stable
                                                          or next.
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Now, I
                                                          *know* that
                                                          there are
                                                          reasons (there
                                                          are always
                                                          reasons) why
                                                          one might
                                                          think that
                                                          master is
                                                          required.
                                                          However, the
                                                          main question
                                                          for me is:</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>  How can
                                                          we make people
                                                          feel confident
                                                          that they can
                                                          use next ?</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Or</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>  How can
                                                          we ensure that
                                                          'next' can be
                                                          used except
                                                          for a few
                                                          packages that
                                                          would go on
                                                          master ?</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>The best
                                                          way to start
                                                          answering
                                                          these
                                                          questions is
                                                          to answer
                                                          another one:</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>  Why are
                                                          you on master
                                                          ?</div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </blockquote>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          Because i
                                                          using syskit
                                                          and the next
                                                          version is
                                                          even more
                                                          unstable than
                                                          master. I had
                                                          several times
                                                          that the
                                                          depandancy
                                                          between
                                                          roby/syskit
                                                          and other
                                                          'core'
                                                          packages is
                                                          hard. So i
                                                          cannot stay a
                                                          long time on
                                                          next and only
                                                          with
                                                          syskit/roby on
                                                          master.<br>
                                                          Indeed i'm not
                                                          sure if i can
                                                          currently use
                                                          syskit/roby on
                                                          next and
                                                          everything
                                                          else on
                                                          master.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          So generally
                                                          speaking,
                                                          incompatibilities
                                                          between
                                                          syskit/roby/utilmm/utilrb/typelib/orogen/
base/types/(std)<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          The Second
                                                          point, is that
                                                          the release
                                                          cycle to next
                                                          is to long for
                                                          new features,
                                                          i i (as 
                                                          rock-dev) add
                                                          new features
                                                          to rock. I
                                                          take ofter
                                                          months before
                                                          it goes into
                                                          next.<br>
                                                          Therefore i
                                                          have (due to
                                                          the same
                                                          reasons above)
                                                          switch to
                                                          master, also
                                                          for other
                                                          members of my
                                                          project. I
                                                          would prefer a
                                                          shorter
                                                          release time
                                                          between
                                                          master/stable/next...<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Best,<br>
                                                          Matthias
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <br>
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                                                          <div dir="ltr">
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Sylvain </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <br>
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 Dipl.-Inf. Matthias Goldhoorn 
 Space and Underwater Robotic

 Universität Bremen
 FB 3 - Mathematik und Informatik
 AG Robotik
 Robert-Hooke-Straße 1
 28359 Bremen, Germany
 
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                                                  Unterwasserrobotik<br>
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                              <pre cols="72">-- 
 Dipl.-Inf. Matthias Goldhoorn 
 Space and Underwater Robotic

 Universität Bremen
 FB 3 - Mathematik und Informatik
 AG Robotik
 Robert-Hooke-Straße 1
 28359 Bremen, Germany
 
 Zentrale: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:%2B49%20421%20178%2045-6611" value="+49421178456611" target="_blank">+49 421 178 45-6611</a>
 
 Besuchsadresse der Nebengeschäftstelle: 
 Robert-Hooke-Straße 5
 28359 Bremen, Germany
 
 Tel.:    <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:%2B49%20421%20178%2045-4193" value="+49421178454193" target="_blank">+49 421 178 45-4193</a>
 Empfang: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:%2B49%20421%20178%2045-6600" value="+49421178456600" target="_blank">+49 421 178 45-6600</a>
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                  <pre cols="72">-- 
 Dipl.-Inf. Matthias Goldhoorn 
 Space and Underwater Robotic

 Universität Bremen
 FB 3 - Mathematik und Informatik
 AG Robotik
 Robert-Hooke-Straße 1
 28359 Bremen, Germany
 
 Zentrale: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:%2B49%20421%20178%2045-6611" value="+49421178456611" target="_blank">+49 421 178 45-6611</a>
 
 Besuchsadresse der Nebengeschäftstelle: 
 Robert-Hooke-Straße 5
 28359 Bremen, Germany
 
 Tel.:    <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:%2B49%20421%20178%2045-4193" value="+49421178454193" target="_blank">+49 421 178 45-4193</a>
 Empfang: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:%2B49%20421%20178%2045-6600" value="+49421178456600" target="_blank">+49 421 178 45-6600</a>
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 E-Mail:  <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:matthias.goldhoorn@informatik.uni-bremen.de" target="_blank">matthias.goldhoorn@informatik.uni-bremen.de</a>

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    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
 Dipl.-Inf. Matthias Goldhoorn 
 Space and Underwater Robotic

 Universität Bremen
 FB 3 - Mathematik und Informatik
 AG Robotik
 Robert-Hooke-Straße 1
 28359 Bremen, Germany
 
 Zentrale: +49 421 178 45-6611
 
 Besuchsadresse der Nebengeschäftstelle: 
 Robert-Hooke-Straße 5
 28359 Bremen, Germany
 
 Tel.:    +49 421 178 45-4193
 Empfang: +49 421 178 45-6600
 Fax:     +49 421 178 45-4150
 E-Mail:  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:matthias.goldhoorn@informatik.uni-bremen.de">matthias.goldhoorn@informatik.uni-bremen.de</a>

 Weitere Informationen: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.informatik.uni-bremen.de/robotik">http://www.informatik.uni-bremen.de/robotik</a></pre>
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